The PHCPPros Behind the Wall podcast delves into the personal journeys of those who have created successful businesses within the PHCP industry. Every month, Host Ellen Rohr — PHC News columnist, plumber's wife, COO of Zoom Drain Franchising Company and overall industry icon — holds vulnerable conversations with guests to explore insights gained and lessons learned.

In episode 13, Ellen interviews Evelyn Pacheco, an Army veteran who became Nevada’s first black female union plumber nearly 20 years ago. Find out what impact joining the military had on her life, why she entered the skilled trades, and how she continues to prepare other women in Nevada for successful careers in high-skilled trade occupations!

You can listen to the PHCPPros Behind the Wall podcast on our website, or on streaming platforms such as Spotify, Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts.