In a recent PHCPPros Off the Cuff episode, Editor Ruth Mitchell has a candid conversation with Dr. Donald McNeeley, chairman and CEO of Chicago Tube and Iron Co. and columnist for The Wholesaler magazine. The duo discuss the "Black Swan" events impacting the industry — from the devastation in the oil market to the COVID-19 crisis. You can listen to their full conversation here: bit.ly/2YeEjBH.

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